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From CNN's iReport


I said this back in March of 2004:

The Solution to the Gay Marriage Debate


The problem is a semantic one; a problem of meanings; a problem of language.

The transitive verb:

mar-ry v. -ried, -ry-·ing, -ries.


  1. To join as spouses by exchanging vows.
  2. To take as a spouse.
  3. To give in marriage.
  4. To perform a marriage ceremony for: The rabbi married the couple.
  5. To obtain by marriage: marry money.
  6. Nautical: To join (two ropes) end to end by interweaving their strands.

  7. To unite in a close, usually permanent way: "His material marries the domestic and the exotic".

Note that none of the above definitions speak to either gender nor religion

But the term ceremony itself can be used without religious context; a "graduation ceremony" for example. Therefore a marriage ceremony can be based on either a religious (sacred) or a non-religious (secular) premise.

This distinction is at the heart of the argument...along with the constitutional clause demanding separation of church and state.

Simple enough.

However, there is third concept involved which causes confusion and tends to make the distinctions less clear.

Two people cannot be considered married just because they exchange vows or sign a piece of paper which gives them licence or allows them to marry getting a marriage licence does NOT make you married). Nor can they be considered married even if those vows are witnessed by kith and kin. The marriage contract occurs legally only when a person who has been invested with the authority by the state declares the couple married.

For a majority of Americans who get married, this person invested with the state authority to make their marriage legal will be a member of the clergy of some recognized religion. This means that the two otherwise distinct forms of marriage are blended into one ceremony; both the sacred and the bureaucratic are combined.

This investment of state authority is in itself is a breach of the separation of church and state clause, but because it has gone on for so long, it seems completely normal and is almost never questioned.

If the religious aspect of marriage is removed from the equation and we are speaking only of civil marriages, all of the arguments used by the religious right or by those proposing a constitutional amendment barring same-sex marriage, as when Dubya referenced "cultural, religious and natural" traditions, are meaningless. And without those arguments, there is simply no rational reason not to allow same-sex couples to marry in a civil ceremony to make their relationship contractually legal in order, if for no other reason, that they be eligible to fulfill their legal responsibilities and pursue whatever advantages marriages bestows on married heterosexual couples, as citizens equal under the law.

The solution then is to remove the investment of state authority from the clergy and reclarify the distinctions between the two types of marriage.
Let all those who desire to be married legally to do so through a state appointed bureaucratic agent.


Those who desire to add a layer of sacredness according to the lights of their religion may do so freely.

Nothing will change or threaten the institution of marriage at all if this were done.
As it is heterosexual people who get married in civil ceremonies, such as the Las Vegas weddings, are not seen as threatening to the institution of marriage, so why should the civil marriage ceremony of same-sex partners be considered any more of a threat?

Also read about why "Civil Unions" are NOT equal to "Civil Marriage" :
Civil Unions vs Civil Marriage

4 Comments

I tuned in to the last 30 seconds of a shouting match on CNN where only one side was shouting: some hyperventilating guardian of the sacred christian institution [in which christ was never at all interested according to his PR departments] of marriage was "discussing" the prop 8 vote with a woman who barely managed to get in a few words about how hard it is to support or care for a person you love with out the legal and financial advantages granted to spouses.

The way the hate seethed in this guy's barely controlled demeanor was scary...his knowing is nothing compared to his feeling. I still think the less secure a person is, the less they feel safe just being who they really are and the less they are able to offer love from a place of confidence, the more they need external institutions to lend credibility to their identities. This shit is really getting old.

In other words, the real sin they can't face is not others redefining marriage but their being unable to define themselves through the act of marrying. Just look at bible belt divorce rates to get a clue about how desperation jams ill-matched couples together when their cultural baggage leads them to think marriage is a free pass to normality and half way to heaven. Sheesh!

Hey greensmile,

How be ye?

And I concur with everything you just said.

Its astounding that there are still so many people so insecure.

I am OK according to my doctors. Life's good in FL?

I am contemplating retirement...from everything... amid radically shrunken assets. I am writing a lot that I do not mean to share. That could be crazy-making except I find I already was crazy.

Still in remission, *knock on wood*, and still attending school for network tickets (A+ and Net+) overall Obama's win cured the suicidal stuff for the moment.

You got nailed by the recent economic fiesta? ...Major drag if so. Write me personal. I will do the same.

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